but if u nw ur dog u will nw to make that call it all depents on its temperment ,charctor and mood xx
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we have had lots and lots of birds !!

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My dog’s never been trained but is perfectly behaved in public. He’s sweet with not only people and dogs but also cats, gophers (he looms over their holes and actually touches noses with them when they come up), squirrels (he once caught one, craddled it liked a baby, and cleaned it… then let it go), rats (I have a pet rat who crawls all over him), pigeons (I’ve rescued a couple and he was always my nurse), etc…

Yeah, he comes when I call him… but only if he feels like it (or if I yell really loud/mean, which I reserve for times when he may be in danger and I need him to stop in his tracks). Would he pass an obedience test? Probably not… he’s stubborn. But he’s more gentle than even the most "obedient" dogs I’ve met. He watches where he’s going, he’s considerate of others, and it’s rare that he does anything that obedience is necessary (and when he does, it’s mischievous, but not aggressive in the least).

As for his temperament… he’s aloof, but very gentle. Not aggressive at all. Never the kind to even accidentally bump into someone. Again, he’s good with people and animals of all kinds (generally aloof/somewhat disinterested in people and dogs, but very friendly/excitable with small animals – though he’s still gentle with them). However, he playfully and belligerently growls all the time. When I pick him up, he growls. When I make him walk a direction he doesn’t want to walk, he growls. If someone he wants to give him attention won’t give him attention, he growls. But it’s not aggressive (nearly 14 and has never bitten anyone… except other dogs that have attacked him – and even then, he was strangely responsible and smart about it)

By most people’s standards, he wouldn’t pass said tests… though, frankly, he’s better behaved and more gentle than just about any dog I’ve ever seen (ex; once, we were in the subway on the platform waiting for our train… some POLICE dogs came and started barking at him. He sat there, kinda sighed and rolled his eyes, and just watched them pass… but if you randomly tell him to sit, he’ll look at you like ‘sit yourself!’). Likewise, his growling would likely be deemed "aggressive", though it’s not.

So I’d support such testing if the "standards" weren’t set by a***oles who want their dogs to be robots, or the whole "you need to be the alpha dog and assert your dominance over them" crap. As long as the testing was strictly to determine if a dog was friendly with other dogs and with respect to each dog as an individual, I’d support it. But as it is, such testing goes by arbitrary standards that not everyone wants to impose on their already gentle and well-behaved dogs. that said… I wish that was the case, as mine, now that he’s older, is getting attacked every few weeks, and since he can no longer defend himself he’s more at risk, and I’ve already been bitten twice by vicious dogs from trying to prevent him from being bitten.
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BSL is not the answer.
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An untrained dog should NOT be socializing off lead. That is a dangerous situation. Nothing wrong with letting him play with his buddies while you have complete control over him.

I’ve had several dogs with severe behavior problems (ranging from very shy to very aggressive) They were all able to get their CGCs before their problems were completely resolved – I just had way more control over them.

SC – Aggression may not be related to obedience but if an aggressive dog is OBEDIENCE trained, then the owner atlkeast has control over it. I have an APBT, My dog is dog-aggressive. He’s been obedience trained. I try to be a responsible dog owner. But sometimes accidents happen. I was cleaning my garage and accidently left the door to the house open. A huge dog came running down the street, my pit saw it and ran out of the house charging after it. As soon as I saw my dog run across the yard I yelled our "down-stay" command. And my dog immediately dropped to the ground. I was able to walk over to him grab his collar and secure him in the house. Is my dog any less aggressive? No. Is he dangerous? Nope – he’s trained and I have control.

rescue member – we have two dog parks in my town. Both require the use of a "pooch pass" (It’s this cool credit card like device that unlocks the gate to the park) In order to get a pass you need to submit your fee ($35 per dog) proof of vaccination and license. Here it really wouldn’t be difficult to impliment any training proof – certificate from an approved obedience calss, behaviorist/vet assesment of temperament, or copy GCG certificate. Just throw in a copy with the vet records and check while applying
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